继之前测试过用 GPT4O 阅读其他语种的漫画且效果还不错后,就考虑用 GPT4 进行英文电子书翻译了。为节约成本并提高可读性,使用网页版,也就是 3 小时限额 40 条的版本。之前没这么干是因为我经常要用 GPT4 改代码,不能消耗大量额度让自己要用的时候用不了,但既然 GPT4O 出来了且是分别计算额度的,就算 GPT4 额度用光也能暂时用 GPT4O 。
目前翻译了两本悬疑小说,三本教程类书籍,一本学术类书籍,一本神话类书籍。
流程是这样的:
所以一本书大概要翻译一两天。
目前遇到的问题:
我不想发布未经人工校对的电子书的下载版,避免错误越传越广,但在不同平台尝试发长图结果大部分都被屏蔽了。目前考虑将全书内容做成一个带目录的长网页,找个地方放,方便我自己修改和管理可读性,但这又要费一番功夫了。
我自己感兴趣的书主要是侦探、科幻、各领域历史、计算机这些类别的,之前因为看英文书太累了,好多书虽然买了却只看了一部分。
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jiangjiaxingogog 183 天前
目前翻译一篇文章还行,翻译一本各章节上下有逻辑关系的书还是有点难为它了,无法保持原文的连贯性和逻辑性,常出现幻觉
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dasbn 183 天前
感谢分享,我之前也想这么干,看到 op 的做饭,决定放弃。翻译出错太疼了,额度对书籍不太多。
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pluvet 182 天前
可以尝试提取词汇表,加上 AI 自我监督,并且从翻译 HTML 改成翻译 AST (推荐 yaml 序列化)
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pluvet 182 天前
如果说技术文档被开除电子书籍,那我没话说了
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Alicewish OP @pluvet 所以你没遇到过大量脚注,各种格式:斜体、粗体、下划线、居中,段落首字母特殊处理,诗文引用和链接引用等等。
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pluvet 182 天前
所以我建议先转 ast 再预处理再翻译,你把这个直接丢给 AI 肯定不行。你不会真指望 AI 能自动帮你处理各种引用关系吧?
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googlefans 182 天前
用 gpt4 翻译很不划算
不如直接 google 翻译 |
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shakespark 182 天前
4 用不起。3.5 可以啊
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metalvest 182 天前 via Android
这是把 calibre 的翻译插件的翻译流程手动实现了一遍?
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HUZHUANGZHUANG 182 天前
我直接开了一个微信读书会员,然后导入图书,开始翻译。还不限量
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Alicewish OP @googlefans 步骤 3 就是自动谷歌翻译啊。谷歌翻译整体可读性不如 GPT4 。
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Alicewish OP @shakespark 3.5 和 4 质量差很大,如果我想制作质量较高的电子书翻译版,不会考虑 3.5 。再说 3.5 的 api 也是要花一点钱的。
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shakespark 182 天前
@Alicewish 之前也比较过,感觉 3.5 和 4 差不了多少
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googlefans 181 天前
@HUZHUANGZHUANG 聪明
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Alicewish OP @shakespark 你对翻译文本的质量要求有点低
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OWLS 181 天前
不断尝试,不断改进,之后你就是这方面的专家了。
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abcl8023y 179 天前 via iPhone
直接用沉浸式翻译插件制作双语电子书就好了,3.5 翻译得还可以
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BQsummer 178 天前
题外话,推荐个今天刷到的吴恩达的翻译 agent ,https://github.com/andrewyng/translation-agent
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snylonue 176 天前
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