Win10 18298 的一项史诗级进步

2018-12-11 12:44:33 +08:00
 1v9

标题有点夸张,更多信息详见微软公告

Notepad Updates

UTF-8 Encoding: We've made significant improvements to the way Notepad handles encoding. Starting with this build, we are adding the option to save files in UTF-8 without a Byte Order Mark and making this the default for new files. UTF-8 without a Byte Order Mark is backwards-compatible with ASCII and will provide better interoperability with the web, where UTF-8 has become the default encoding. Additionally, we added a column to the status bar that displays the encoding of the document.

Modified indicator: Notepad will now show an asterisk (*) in the title bar before the title of a document to indicate that a document has unsaved changes.

不说了,待我重启更新。

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luckbbs
2018-12-11 14:04:07 +08:00
都不用 gvim 吗
xxgirl2
2018-12-11 14:04:17 +08:00
确实难得。历史遗留的各种兼容性问题是真的烦。
lzyfred
2018-12-11 14:08:54 +08:00
@lisonfan VSCODE 还是重也不是原生应用,一般不集成到系统
moposx
2018-12-11 14:09:13 +08:00
@hihipp 就是这个功能,打开之后,英雄联盟能登录 能匹配 就是进不去游戏(弹窗报 bug )( wegame 启动)
如果直接启动你会发现服务器列表全部是问号...
oneonesv
2018-12-11 14:21:22 +08:00
这要更新了怕不是好多程序要挂啊
xmt328
2018-12-11 14:27:14 +08:00
@hihipp 我尝试打开过一段时间,命令行是好用了,但是不少软件有显示问题,估计还得测试一阵子
atuocn
2018-12-11 14:33:04 +08:00
诺,是不是勾了那个 beta, ffmepg 在 windows 上文件名不出乱码了。
tyzrj766
2018-12-11 14:35:29 +08:00
@hihipp 以前就有了,开了这东西一堆程序全是问号,没法用...
mgzu
2018-12-11 14:47:58 +08:00
@whileFalse 哇,我好像知道之前玩 P 社游戏,改 txt 配置文件,游戏里参数爆炸的原因了。
lihongjie0209
2018-12-11 14:55:02 +08:00
@jasonyang9 看看 powershell 就知道了, 要用一些库竟然要升级
imn1
2018-12-11 15:08:16 +08:00
@hihipp
这个不能随便改,我试过,然后一堆旧软件废掉,没法用,问题是这些好用的软件很多都停止开发了,几乎没有替代版本
特别是没法替代的国内券商软件,总不能电话、页面交易吧
jejer
2018-12-11 15:15:33 +08:00
linux 换行兼容了吗
yinanc
2018-12-11 15:26:21 +08:00
@jasonyang9 甚至 edge,一个最基本的浏览器的升级都是和系统升级捆绑的,相比 chrome,是不是觉得不可思议?
des
2018-12-11 15:34:56 +08:00
@imn1
试试 locale Emulator ?
jasonyang9
2018-12-11 15:38:01 +08:00
@yinanc #33 Ars 撰文分析过了,Edge 的版本不统一或严重碎片化是 MS 自己作出来的,也是被放弃的主要原因

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But it turns out this isn't enough to bridge the compatibility gap. If every Edge user were using the very latest version of Edge, it wouldn't be so bad, but that's not the case, and that's because of how Microsoft has bundled Edge with Windows 10. Most home users will end up running the latest feature update to Windows 10 within a few months of its release. But enterprise users are more diverse. An enterprise that has rolled out Windows 10 version 1709 to 10,000 seats may follow that by deploying version 1803 to another 10,000. The systems with 1709 will stick with 1709 — after all, it's still supported — as the enterprise focuses its resources on getting legacy systems onto "some version of Windows 10," rather than getting every Windows 10 user onto the same version of Windows 10.

The result is that all those compatibility, stability, and feature improvements made in versions 1803 and 1809 will be completely off-limits to the machines running 1709. This means that Edge, already a relatively small target for Web developers to think about, suffers major version fragmentation. Contrast this with Chrome, where within a few days of a new version coming out, almost the entire user base is migrated.

This coupling with Windows 10 similarly means that there's no facility to offer Edge to Windows 7 or even macOS users.

It's this issue that's perhaps the lethal, killer blow for Edge. If every Edge installation were always the latest and greatest one, and if corporations could standardize on Edge across their entire fleet — including Windows 7 systems, including Macs — then the browser might just have been a big enough, consistent enough target that it would be sustainable. But Redmond has decided that it isn't. Microsoft did consider decoupling the browser from Windows 10 so that it could be updated on its own cadence and so that it could be ported to Windows 7 (if not macOS), but for reasons that are unclear, it decided that the work to do this would be too substantial.
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而这个小小的 Notepad 竟然也跟 OS 耦合在一起,真是牛。
1v9
2018-12-11 15:49:00 +08:00
@jejer 坚持 CRLF 核心一百年不动摇
Smilecc
2018-12-11 17:01:11 +08:00
@Navee 不是 Bug,是微软对历史的坚持
geelaw
2018-12-11 17:07:23 +08:00
@cchange #13 二手信息不准确。我似乎在想 V2EX 看过好几次以讹传讹了,所以特此更正一下。

微软的产品绝不可能是退休的人在维护。CNBeta 里面提到的 Raymond Chen,正确的内容:

In the years leading up to his retirement, my colleague was, among other things, responsible for maintaining Notepad.

是那个人退休前在维护,退休了就没有权利也没有义务维护了。现在维护 Notepad 的显然是另一个人 /团队。
zhouyut001
2018-12-11 18:21:56 +08:00
notepad++路过
ritaswc
2018-12-11 18:23:50 +08:00
我问一下,这个支持彩色字么,输出彩色字乱码很难受啊

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